Jockey Details

Mr M J Kenneally

290 Rides 30 Wins (10.3%) 54 Places (18.6%)
Rides - Today & Tomorrow (8)
Time Course Distance Horse Trainer Odds
Fri 17:00 Ballinrobe 2m174y Crystabel (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 10/1
Fri 18:00 Ballinrobe 2m174y Piccolo Player John Patrick Ryan 8/1
Fri 18:30 Ballinrobe 2m5f94y Carry On Heidi (IRE) Jeremiah Patrick Baragry 7/2
Fri 19:00 Ballinrobe 2m5f94y Mr Dibbs (IRE) S Curling 7/1
Fri 19:30 Ballinrobe 2m5f94y Free Flowing (IRE) Norman Lee 33/1
Sat 14:40 Bellewstown 2m1f30y Microscope (GB) Peter Buchanan N/A
Sat 15:50 Bellewstown 2m1f30y Marlpark (IRE) John Patrick Ryan N/A
Sat 16:25 Bellewstown 2m1f30y Sekifi (IRE) Matthew J Smith N/A
Recent Runs - Last 12 Months (Showing 100)
Date/Time Course Distance Horse Trainer Position Beaten By Weight SP Comment
16/04/26
16:30
Limerick (IRE) 2m3½f Orlando Spirit (FR) Paul Power 8 13 10-11 5/1
Towards rear - weakened before 2 out(tchd 9/2)
16/04/26
15:55
Limerick (IRE) 2m3½f Cooltubrid Eva (IRE) Diarmuid P Ryan 1st Won 10-8 33/1
Midfield - ridden and headway before 2 out - led narrowly before last - went clear towards finish - comfortably(op 50/1)
16/04/26
14:45
Limerick (IRE) 2m Piccolo Player John Patrick Ryan 4 3.25 10-12 5/2J
In touch with leaders - some headway when not fluent 2 out - soon outpaced - weakened run-in(op 10/3)
14/04/26
19:12
Clonmel (IRE) 2m4f Ad Caelum (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 6 2.5 10-8 20/1
(tchd 18/1 and 22/1)
14/04/26
18:12
Clonmel (IRE) 2m1f Finnicky Filly (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 5 5 10-4 10/1
Held up in rear - plenty to do after 3 out - headway before 2 out - kept on run-in - nearest finish and eyecatcher(tchd 9/1)
14/04/26
17:42
Clonmel (IRE) 2m7f Better Times (IRE) S G Carey 4 3.75 11-5 8/1
Towards rear - midfield 8th - pressed leader before 2 out - no extra run-in(op 15/2)
14/04/26
16:37
Clonmel (IRE) 2m4f Little John Colin Motherway 6 14 10-13 50/1
Prominent - weakened before 2 out(op 33/1)
10/04/26
19:08
Wexford (IRE) 2m3½f Nolans Rocco (IRE) Padraig Butler 99 - 11-6 7/1
In touch with leaders - lost position before 8th - weakened before 4 out - pulled up before 3 out(op 6/1 tchd 11/2)
10/04/26
18:38
Wexford (IRE) 2m3½f Brideswell Lad (IRE) Seamus Neville 8 1 10-12 16/1
Pressed leaders early - prominent from 2nd - went second after 4th - lost second before 2 out - soon weakened
10/04/26
18:03
Wexford (IRE) 2m3½f James The Brave (IRE) Padraig Butler 1st Won 9-13 9/4F
In touch with leaders - headway before 8th - led before 4 out - ridden and went clear before 2 out - reduced lead and faced challenges run-in - kept on(op 3/1)
10/04/26
17:28
Wexford (IRE) 3m Rocky's Howya (IRE) Declan Queally 99 - 11-6 3/1
Led - not fluent 2nd - not fluent 7th - headed before 3 out - weakened and pulled up before 2 out (vet reported gelding to be blowing hard post race)(op 5/2)
06/04/26
17:40
Fairyhouse (IRE) 3m½f Prophet's Corner (IRE) Sean Joseph Allen 99 - 10-10 9/1
Soon prominent - slightly hampered 12th(op 10/1)
06/04/26
17:00
Fairyhouse (IRE) 3m5f Flicker Of Hope (FR) Mark Fahey 99 - 10-9 18/1
Midfield(op 22/1)
06/04/26
14:05
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m Tatateo (IRE) Denis Gerard Hogan 16 2.75 11-7 16/1
Never better than midfield(tchd 14/1)
05/04/26
14:05
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m4f Don Jefe Gerard Edmund O'Leary 99 - 11-0 12/1
Midfield - in touch with leaders 4th - prominent 4 out - weakened after 3 out - pulled up 2 out(op 11/1)
05/04/26
13:30
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m½f Crystal Yeats Noel C Kelly 13 9.5 11-7 50/1
Towards rear - never on terms
04/04/26
17:00
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m Messerschmitt (IRE) Noel Meade 9 .5 9-13 15/2
Prominent - led before 3 out where not fluent - soon 5 lengths ahead - reduced lead and hit 2 out - headed before last - soon weakened(op 6/1)
04/04/26
16:25
Fairyhouse (IRE) 3m Soldierstown (IRE) Peter Buchanan 99 - 10-4 14/1
Never going well - towards rear throughout - detached 3 out - pulled up approaching last(op 16/1 tchd 12/1)
02/04/26
19:00
Clonmel (IRE) 2m Our Uncle Jack (IRE) Martin Paul Fitzgerald 3rd 1.5 11-12 7/1
Prominent - went second after 1st - led 2nd - headed 2 out - kept on run-in(tchd 8/1)
02/04/26
18:30
Clonmel (IRE) 2m Finnicky Filly (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 9 2.25 10-6 14/1
Raced in last - headway before 2 out - weakened after last(op 20/1)
02/04/26
17:00
Clonmel (IRE) 2m7f Rusheen (IRE) Terence O'Brien 3rd .5 11-7 6/1
Prominent - pressed leaders after 3 out - went second before 2 out - no extra last(op 7/1 tchd 15/2)
31/03/26
17:42
Limerick (IRE) 2m5½f Westernersunrise (IRE) James Andrew Fahey 99 - 11-3 4/1
Towards rear throughout - pulled up before 2 out(op 5/1)
31/03/26
17:10
Limerick (IRE) 2m Blazing Duke (IRE) Paul Nolan 3rd 2.25 11-7 15/2
In touch with leaders - headway and pressed leaders before 2 out - not fluent last - kept on and went third towards finish(op 6/1 tchd 17/2)
31/03/26
16:40
Limerick (IRE) 2m Ivebeenkewadesert Declan Queally 9 46 11-2 25/1
Always behind(op 22/1)
31/03/26
16:10
Limerick (IRE) 2m Rebel Queen Colin Motherway 5 5 10-11 10/1
Led - headed before 4th - pressed leaders when not fluent 2 out - weakened before last(op 9/1)
29/03/26
16:27
Downpatrick (IRE) 3m4½f Brideswell Lad (IRE) Seamus Neville 10 13 11-7 33/1
Never better than midfield - hampered by faller 9th - no extra from 3 out
29/03/26
15:52
Downpatrick (IRE) 2m6f Better Times (IRE) S G Carey 1st Won 11-2 11/1
Midfield - went second 3 out - led after 2 out - ridden after last - kept on well towards finish(tchd 12/1)
29/03/26
14:42
Downpatrick (IRE) 2m6f Bruno From Mars (IRE) Conor David Maxwell 7 7 10-8 20/1
Prominent - went second after 2nd - led after 3 out - faced challenges approaching last - headed after last - weakened run-in(tchd 22/1)
29/03/26
14:07
Downpatrick (IRE) 2m6f Microscope (GB) Peter Buchanan 5 11 10-13 200/1
Midfield - some headway from 2 out - never on terms(op 100/1)
26/03/26
17:42
Clonmel (IRE) 2m3f Ballyredinkingston (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 99 - 10-4 12/1
Prominent - pushed along and keeping on when brought down just before 2 out(op 14/1)
26/03/26
17:12
Clonmel (IRE) 2m3f Finnicky Filly (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 14 1.25 10-6 11/1
Towards rear throughout(op 12/1 tchd 14/1)
26/03/26
16:42
Clonmel (IRE) 2m3f Chautuaqua (IRE) Denis Gerard Hogan 10 3.25 11-5 14/1
In touch with leaders - took keen hold and led with one circuit to go - headed home turn - weakened quickly before 2 out(op 12/1 tchd 11/1)
26/03/26
15:42
Clonmel (IRE) 2m7½f Love Like This (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 10 2.5 9-9 40/1
Prominent - not fluent 1st - in touch with leaders 3 out - weakened after 2 out - no extra when not fluent last(tchd 50/1)
26/03/26
15:12
Clonmel (IRE) 2m Free Flowing (IRE) Norman Lee 6 3.75 11-7 14/1
In touch with leaders - mistake 3rd - soon dropped to rear - weakened after 3 out(op 18/1 tchd 20/1)
22/03/26
13:53
Limerick (IRE) 2m Eye Of A Tiger (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 3rd 3.75 11-2 13/2
Raced in last throughout - kept on from last - never on terms(op 11/2 tchd 7/1)
21/03/26
16:17
Navan (IRE) 2m7½f Gringo d'Aubrelle (FR) Gordon Elliott 99 - 10-5 9/1
Didn't jump well - in rear - cajoled along with one circuit to go - almost fell 13th - soon lost touch - pulled up before 3 out(tchd 8/1)
21/03/26
13:55
Navan (IRE) 2m Microscope (GB) Peter Buchanan 11 0.05 11-7 250/1
Held up in rear - outpaced 3 out - kept on but no impression from 2 out - tailed off(op 200/1)
19/03/26
16:00
Cork (IRE) 2m4f Themanintheanorak (IRE) Eugene M O'Sullivan 6 .5 11-3 15/2
Soon midfield - steady headway on turn before 3 out - not fluent last - no extra run-in(op 7/1)
19/03/26
15:00
Cork (IRE) 2m1f Monkeyforajuice (IRE) Daniel G Murphy 14 3.75 10-4 66/1
Never better than midfield - hampered by faller 4 out(op 50/1)
17/03/26
16:32
Wexford (IRE) 2m3½f Spanish Maid (IRE) Ross O'Sullivan 2nd 2.75 9-10 2/1F
In touch with leaders - headway after 4 out - challenging 2 out - hung left then no extra final 110yds(tchd 11/5)
17/03/26
14:47
Wexford (IRE) 2m You Done Well (IRE) Declan Queally 5 3.75 10-11 13/2
Midfield - not fluent 4th - in touch with leaders 3 out - weakened before 2 out(op 7/1 tchd 5/1)
17/03/26
13:37
Wexford (IRE) 2m Shadys Lady (IRE) Declan Queally 3rd 2.75 11-2 15/8
Led - headed before 2 out - no extra approaching last(tchd 2/1)
13/03/26
17:20
Cheltenham 2m4½f Kel Histoire (FR) W P Mullins 4 0.3 11-8 9/2
Prominent - outpaced after 2 out - stayed on run-in(op 4/1 tchd 5/1)
12/03/26
16:14
Limerick (IRE) 2m7f Nolans Rocco (IRE) Padraig Butler 1st Won 11-0 5/1
Prominent - soon went second - pushed along after 3 out - led but faced challenge before 2 out - ridden and edged left inside final 110yds - just held on
12/03/26
15:34
Limerick (IRE) 2m7f Grange Walk (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 5 26 10-8 22/1
Towards rear - not fluent 3rd - not fluent 5 out - not fluent 3 out - soon headway and in touch with leaders - weakened from 2 out
12/03/26
14:54
Limerick (IRE) 2m2f James The Brave (IRE) Padraig Butler 99 - 10-5 7/4F
Prominent - mistake 5 out - disputed lead home turn - challenging when bad mistake and unseated 2 out(op 15/8)
12/03/26
13:34
Limerick (IRE) 2m7f Ballingurteen Terence O'Brien 7 28 10-3 12/1
Never better than midfield - weakened after 3 out(op 18/1)
11/03/26
14:40
Cheltenham 2m5f The Yellow Clay (IRE) Gordon Elliott 99 - 11-9 6/1
Midfield on outer - headway before 4 out - stumbled and fell 3 out(op 8/1)
08/03/26
16:02
Naas (IRE) 3m1f Prophet's Corner (IRE) Sean Joseph Allen 6 5.5 9-9 12/1
Prominent - lost position 9th - prominent after 5 out - stumbled after 3 out - weakened before 2 out(op 20/1)
08/03/26
15:30
Naas (IRE) 2m3f The Nagger Reidy (GB) S G Carey 11 3.5 10-12 7/1
In touch with leaders - not fluent and weakened 3 out - tailed off(op 9/1)
07/03/26
16:18
Gowran Park (IRE) 2m Drumgill (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 99 - 11-3 40/1
In rear - not fluent and unseated 7th
07/03/26
15:43
Gowran Park (IRE) 2m4f Ordered Lives (IRE) Martin Paul Fitzgerald 8 8 9-9 50/1
Towards rear - some headway before 2 out - weakened after 2 out(op 40/1)
07/03/26
15:08
Gowran Park (IRE) 2m Piccolo Player John Patrick Ryan 6 21 11-6 3/1
Took keen hold - prominent - led 1st - went clear before 4th - much reduced lead before 2 out - headed and weakened quickly before last(op 5/1 tchd 11/4)
07/03/26
14:34
Gowran Park (IRE) 2m Rebel Queen Colin Motherway 4 27 10-6 7/1
Took keen hold - prominent - weakened before 2 out(op 9/2)
05/03/26
16:38
Thurles (IRE) 2m7f Jupiter Du Gite (FR) T Hogan 6 2.5 11-9 9/2
Held up in rear - mistake 4th - headway after 3 out - went third approaching last - weakened run-in(op 6/1)
05/03/26
15:30
Thurles (IRE) 2m½f Fixios Noel Meade 99 - 11-10 15/8
Led - fell 1st(op 11/8 tchd 6/5)
05/03/26
14:58
Thurles (IRE) 2m5½f Moulins Clermont (FR) T Hogan 99 - 11-7 12/1
Led - prominent when headed after 1st - hit 5th - lost position after 7th - in rear 10th - tailed off when pulled up before last(op 18/1)
04/03/26
16:22
Naas (IRE) 2m6f Love Like This (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 10 36 10-11 11/1
Always behind - tailed off(op 17/2)
04/03/26
15:20
Naas (IRE) 2m Finnicky Filly (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 8 1.25 10-8 22/1
In rear - tailed off 3 out - ran on run-in(op 12/1)
04/03/26
14:20
Naas (IRE) 2m Brave Josee Declan Queally 14 1.5 10-4 50/1
Always behind - hampered by faller 2 out(op 40/1 tchd 28/1)
03/03/26
15:25
Leopardstown (IRE) 3m The Shanty Field Declan Queally 99 - 10-8 16/1
Midfield - headway and prominent 3rd - weakened after 2 out (usual 3 out) - tailed off when pulled up last(op 17/2)
03/03/26
14:55
Leopardstown (IRE) 2m2½f Forceonmyown (IRE) Gordon Elliott 5 3.5 10-11 12/1
In touch with leaders - headway after 2 out (usual 3 out) - weakened before last
03/03/26
14:25
Leopardstown (IRE) 2m5f Courtmac Gesture (IRE) Colin Motherway 3rd 11 11-2 15/2
Prominent - jumped right 3 out - outpaced 2 out - left in third last(tchd 7/1)
02/03/26
16:55
Leopardstown (IRE) 3m4½f Gringo d'Aubrelle (FR) Gordon Elliott 3rd 3.75 11-5 11/2
Midfield - headway 10th - slow jump 3 out - outpaced after 2 out - rallied and went third run-in - stayed on(op 5/1)
02/03/26
16:25
Leopardstown (IRE) 2m5½f Monbeg Park (IRE) Jack Foley 9 4.25 11-1 11/1
Mistake and jockey lost iron briefly 3rd - towards rear throughout(tchd 10/1)
02/03/26
15:55
Leopardstown (IRE) 2m2½f Better Times (IRE) S G Carey 7 1.75 11-3 8/1
In touch with leaders - headway when slow jump 5th - weakened approaching last(tchd 9/1)
02/03/26
14:55
Leopardstown (IRE) 2m Cock And Bull (IRE) Emmet Mullins 7 7 11-10 11/1
Slow jump 4th - never better than midfield(tchd 10/1)
28/02/26
13:18
Navan (IRE) 2m Annie's Angel (IRE) Adrian McGuinness 5 36 10-9 9/1
In touch with leaders - not fluent 3 out - weakened before 2 out(op 17/2 tchd 12/1)
26/02/26
15:44
Clonmel (IRE) 3m Love Like This (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 99 - 10-9 28/1
Prominent - disputed lead 5 out - led clearly after 3 out - headed home turn - soon weakened quickly - pulled up approaching last(op 20/1)
26/02/26
15:09
Clonmel (IRE) 2m½f Free Flowing (IRE) Norman Lee 3rd 53 11-7 18/1
Midfield - brief headway after 3 out - no extra when left in remote third 2 out(op 20/1 tchd 16/1)
26/02/26
13:59
Clonmel (IRE) 2m½f Finnicky Filly (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 99 - 10-13 11/2
In rear - headway on outer after 3 out - prominent home turn - weakened quickly and pulled up before 2 out
26/02/26
13:24
Clonmel (IRE) 2m½f Oh So Charming (GB) Declan Queally 4 5 10-7 5/1
In rear - headway 2 out - ran on and went fourth towards finish - not reach leaders(op 3/1 tchd 5/1)
22/02/26
15:30
Naas (IRE) 2m7f Hartur d'Arc (FR) John C McConnell 8 4.25 10-7 9/1
Led narrowly or disputed lead - weakened approaching last(op 17/2)
22/02/26
15:00
Naas (IRE) 1m7½f Piccolo Player John Patrick Ryan 5 .75 10-0 9/1
Midfield - in touch with leaders 2 out - no extra run-in(op 10/1)
21/02/26
16:20
Fairyhouse (IRE) 3m Duce Bigalow (IRE) Seamus Neville 2nd 1.5 9-9 5/1
Jumped slightly left throughout - led - headed run-in - stayed on(op 9/2)
21/02/26
15:45
Fairyhouse (IRE) 3m2f No Time To Wait (IRE) John C McConnell 4 9.5 11-7 10/1
In rear - headway before 3rd - soon in touch with leaders - mistake last - weakened run-in(op 17/2)
19/02/26
13:32
Thurles (IRE) 2m2f Splashing Out (IRE) Eoin Griffin 6 15 10-9 14/1
In rear - not fluent 6th - headway when not fluent 2 out - no impression last(op 16/1)
18/02/26
16:15
Punchestown (IRE) 2m4f James The Brave (IRE) Padraig Butler 3rd 7.5 11-7 15/8F
Midfield - headway and went second before 3 out - weakened after last
18/02/26
14:45
Punchestown (IRE) 2m4f Pebble Bleu (IRE) Colin Motherway 6 24 10-9 13/2
Led - not fluent 2nd - headed before 3 out - weakened before 2 out(op 17/2 tchd 6/1)
14/02/26
14:30
Gowran Park (IRE) 2m4f Themanintheanorak (IRE) Eugene M O'Sullivan 11 1.25 11-3 3/1F
Towards rear - midfield 5th - prominent 3 out - challenging when bad mistake 2 out - soon weakened(op 5/2)
14/02/26
12:45
Gowran Park (IRE) 2m Rebel Queen Colin Motherway 6 4.75 10-9 150/1
Midfield - slightly hampered 1st - outpaced from 2 out(op 100/1)
10/02/26
16:25
Limerick (IRE) 1m7½f Love Like This (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 99 - 10-1 13/2
Led - unseated 2 out(op 17/2 tchd 9/1)
10/02/26
14:25
Limerick (IRE) 2m5f Likable Chancer (IRE) Daniel John Howard 99 - 9-12 9/2J
Raced wide - led but pestered - headed before 5th - weakening when not fluent 3 out - pulled up before 2 out(op 7/1)
08/02/26
16:20
Navan (IRE) 3m Solly Attwell (IRE) Cian Collins 99 - 11-2 20/1
Towards rear - brief headway 3 out - no impression before 2 out - pulled up approaching last(op 16/1)
08/02/26
15:20
Navan (IRE) 2m6f Jupiter Du Gite (FR) T Hogan 4 5.5 11-10 13/2
Travelled strongly - held up in rear - headway after 3 out - outpaced when mistake last - weakened run-in(op 17/2)
07/02/26
14:15
Naas (IRE) 2m2½f It's Bobsled Time Richard Morrissey 10 30 10-9 9/1
Held up in rear - hit 4th - outpaced 5th - lost touch 7th - tailed off(op 8/1)
05/02/26
13:42
Thurles (IRE) 2m2f Mount Frisco (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 4 .5 11-1 11/2
Raced in second - not fluent 2nd - not fluent 5th - weakened after 2 out - finished 5th - placed 4th (jockey said gelding never travelled)(op 5/1)
04/02/26
15:58
Punchestown (IRE) 2m7f Pebble Bleu (IRE) Colin Motherway 1st Won 10-10 9/4F
Made all - pushed along 2 out - went clear approaching last - reduced lead final 110yds - comfortably(tchd 11/5)
04/02/26
14:48
Punchestown (IRE) 2m3f James The Brave (IRE) Padraig Butler 1st Won 9-7 6/4F
Made all - mistake 5th - not fluent 7th - pushed along when faced challenge last - ridden and stayed on run-in - always doing enough(op 13/8 tchd 11/8)
03/02/26
16:05
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m Our Uncle Jack (IRE) Martin Paul Fitzgerald 1st Won 11-1 15/8J
Made virtually all - not fluent 1st - briefly headed after 2nd - clear before 4 out - going best before 2 out - good jump last - pushed out and went further clear run-in - easily(op 10/3)
03/02/26
15:30
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m4f Themanintheanorak (IRE) Eugene M O'Sullivan 1st Won 11-4 7/2
Held up in midfield - in touch with leaders 3 out - led when mistake 2 out - soon ridden - ran on well run-in(op 9/2 tchd 10/3)
03/02/26
14:55
Fairyhouse (IRE) 2m4f Don Jefe Gerard Edmund O'Leary 1st Won 11-5 16/1
Midfield - good headway and in touch with leaders on outer 5th - went second 4 out - nudged along and led 2 out - not fluent last - ridden and ran on well run-in(op 14/1 tchd 20/1)
02/02/26
16:05
Leopardstown (IRE) 2m1f Drumgill (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 9 1.5 10-8 33/1
In rear - headway before 3 out - weakened after 2 out(tchd 40/1)
02/02/26
14:25
Leopardstown (IRE) 3m Dippedinmoonlight (IRE) Emmet Mullins 5 9.5 9-7 15/2
Raced in second - lost second 2 out - weakened before last
01/02/26
14:45
Leopardstown (IRE) 2m5½f Pride Of Place (IRE) E Bolger 9 1.5 9-7 25/1
(op 40/1)
01/02/26
12:40
Leopardstown (IRE) 2m2f Cousin Kate (IRE) Denis Gerard Hogan 1st Won 10-12 13/2
Prominent - shaken up and edged left approaching last where 2 lengths ahead and not fluent - ridden run-in - kept on(op 5/1 tchd 9/2)
29/01/26
16:25
Thurles (IRE) 2m6½f Pebble Bleu (IRE) Colin Motherway 1st Won 9-13 4/1J
Made all - clear before 1st - reduced lead before 2 out - faced challenge before last - kept on well (trainer said - regarding the apparent improvement in form - mare ran flat the last day and he failed to pinpoint anything which led to the disappointing run)(op 11/2)
29/01/26
15:25
Thurles (IRE) 2m4f Love Like This (IRE) John Patrick Ryan 6 .5 10-9 14/1
Towards rear - headway after 3 out - midfield before 2 out - stayed on after 2 out(op 20/1)
29/01/26
14:55
Thurles (IRE) 2m Lord Of The Locke (IRE) C Byrnes 7 1.25 10-11 25/1
Took keen hold - prominent - pressed leader 2 out - weakened approaching last(op 33/1)
26/01/26
16:10
Punchestown (IRE) 2m7f Cloudy Fountain (IRE) W J Burke 10 6 10-3 25/1
Midfield - in touch with leaders before 4th - weakened after 2 out(op 28/1)